"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
01/25/2016 at 14:06 • Filed to: None
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"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform)
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Call me crazy, but I foresee a storm brewing in the lower midsize segment. The horsepower war will trickle down into the regular midsize sedans, beginning with the 325 horsepower Ford Fusion Sport.
Then there’s the uber-modified HPD Honda Accord IndyCar safety car, rocking 400 horsepower out of the standard 3.5 V6, !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , namely an RLX crankshaft and a limited slip differential among others.
The question is: why a Honda Accord? Honda has far more powerful and/or track-potent cars in its lineup, including the RLX Sport Hybrid and even the NSX! There’s no reason they’d modify something like an Accord to lead some of the fastest race cars on the planet rather than using something else that’s much more suited to the job.
But you see, I think there is. I think they’re fielding a modified Accord to get some mileage for an Accord Type R development project. And what better environment than a race track with IndyCars?
They’ve proven that they can push an Accord to 400 horsepower, but there are still two factors that need to pan out before anything like this can happen:
Fusion Sport
As has been mentioned before, Ford announced a 325 horsepower Fusion Sport, which would prove a worthy competitor to a hot Accord. However, it is unknown how the public will receive the Fusion Sport. As has been shown by the Chevrolet SS, the public doesn’t really care for a sports sedan that doesn’t carry prestige. Therefore the Fusion Sport remains a wildcard for now.
Civic Type R
The FK2 Civic Type R is finally coming to the United States! While there are many reasons Honda would do this, there may be one reason pertaining to the hot Accord: how would we respond to a hot Honda? The US only got one Type R, the venerable Integra Type R, which was mercilessly ripped apart by thieves and crooks. Beyond that, Honda has nary a clue how we’d respond to the Type R badge in this day and age.
Being on the Civic’s first international chassis, selling the CTR to us has become easier than ever, there should be little lost if the CTR does not do well on our shores. Therefore, it can be claimed that it’s merely an experimental process, gauging not only our interest in the badge, but in hot Hondas in general. After all, it’s been seven years since we’ve said goodbye to the S2000. The market has likely moved on.
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While the chances of getting a 400 horsepower Accord are slim, Honda has proven to us that they have the capacity to push it to the extreme, and likely into showrooms in a couple of years.
Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:11 |
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Okay but where would that leave Acura, the +1 brand in the USA? Acura would get any performance boost before Honda if it comes to shoving a TT V6 into an Accord
Cherry_man1
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:14 |
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Rename Fusion Torino add a coupe from and call it a day, also rename the Taurus to Gran Torino and add a coupe call it the Gran Torino Sport as the SHO model and call it a day
not for canada - australian in disguise
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:14 |
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I want the 315 HP V6 from the Genesis in the Sonata and the Optima.
Or, better yet, the 425 HP V8 that’s also available in the Genesis.
You’d probably die, and it probably wouldn’t fit, but who the hell cares.
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TheHondaBro
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
01/25/2016 at 14:15 |
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As a luxury brand, Acura would receive a powerful engine for smoothness first and performance second.
BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:15 |
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One flaw in your logic: comparing the Fusion Sport to the SS.
Chevys SS is a totally different model than anything else. Fusion Sports, if priced right, will mostly be sold to people coming into the dealership who want “the best Fusion” on the lot. Same mentality as most M5 and AMG buyers, just a lower price point.
The SS, on the other hand, is something totally different. You have to know it exists in order to want it.
If Ford can price the Fusion Sport at around $35-38k, it should be moderately successful.
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Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:16 |
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Eh...fair point. The idea of a 400hp AWD TLX excites me more than the Accord though.
Sweet Trav
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:17 |
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There is a market for the Fusion Sport. 325HP AWD Mid-size sedan, This was the car i knew about for a while, but couldnt say anything about, and i wanted it so badly, too bad my lease was up this past sept and i needed to get a car, so i got a SHO. my guess is even though It's down 40hp to the SHO it will be a lot faster because its at least 700lbs lighter.
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TheHondaBro
> BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
01/25/2016 at 14:20 |
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I did hesitate a little, but I still included it for one reason:
This type of car would be best suited for enthusiasts. The SS and the Fusion Sport share one key element, that they’re both high-performance sedans that don’t carry much prestige. An enthusiast who turned his/her back on the SS may also be likely to do the same to the Fusion Sport for the same reason. They will parade their way to the BMW dealership and get a 335i.
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TheHondaBro
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
01/25/2016 at 14:26 |
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But then it’ll be encroaching on the RLX Sport Hybrid.
spanfucker retire bitch
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
01/25/2016 at 14:28 |
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The Acura would just get a bigger and better engine. Like the Lincoln MKZ. That 3.0L TT V6 in the MKZ and Continential is just a bored out and upgraded version of the 2.7 TT V6 that is found in the Fusion Sport.
Nobi
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:30 |
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Needs AWD, and not that hybrid “AWD” Acura uses. I know it’s heavy, but real SH-AWD plus 400 hp in an Accord coupe would be a blast. If they could work the 6 speed manual in there, that car would be amazing.
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spanfucker retire bitch
> BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
01/25/2016 at 14:31 |
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Chevys SS is a totally different model than anything else. Fusion Sports, if priced right, will mostly be sold to people coming into the dealership who want “the best Fusion” on the lot. Same mentality as most M5 and AMG buyers, just a lower price point.
Except the “best” Fusion is actually the Fusion Platinum which sits above the Sport and doesn’t come with the 2.7L engine, the bigger brakes, the performance dampers, etc. It’s just a more luxurious Fusion that slots in above the Titanium and Sport trim.
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Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 14:36 |
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No one buys any of those so m...
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BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
> spanfucker retire bitch
01/25/2016 at 15:53 |
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If that’s the case, then it’s going to be a mistake on Ford’s part.
The Powershift in Steve's '12 Ford Focus killed it's TCM (under warranty!)
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 16:54 |
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I, for one, would love an Accord Type-S with the last TL’s 3.7L V6 + 6 speed + SH-AWD drivetrain. That would be a good deal of fun, up the performance standard for Hondas, and leave room for Acura to offer a turbo V6 to go after the German cars. A NA V6 and reusing an existing drivetrain would also help keep costs from encroaching too badly on Acura as well.
While I’m asking, can we get the ‘13-’15 grill back? The ‘16s have been beaten with an ugly stick...
ranwhenparked
> TheHondaBro
01/25/2016 at 18:58 |
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Honda has already announced that the V6 will be going away after this Accord generation.
Of course, Ford also announced (quite vocally) that the V6 was dead when the current Fusion launched, and now here we are, so who knows.